Xbox 360 Fall Dashboard Update detailed: DivX, XBLA Hits, and more

Finally, after what seemed an interminable wait, Microsoft was ready to let us in on the big picture. We spoke with Microsoft's Aaron Greenberg about next Tuesday's update and what was still in store. "There are three different categories that speak to a majority of the updates," Greenberg told us.
Keep it on the down-lowed
First in that list is downloadable games – that's your Xbox Originals and your Xbox Live Arcade Hits. Though he couldn't tell us how many Xbox games they're looking to put up on the service, he did say they expected it to be more of a portfolio-style system ala XBLA than a library service ala Wii Virtual Console. In other words, don't expect every one of the 465 back-compat Xbox games to suddenly appear in the Marketplace, but they will have six games to kick the service off – Crash Bandicoot: Wrath of Cortex, Crimson Skies: High Road to Revenge, Halo, Fable, Fuzion Frenzy, and Psychonauts. Regarding releasing the titles, Greenberg said, "They will not be launching on Wednesdays ... but I know they were looking at a regular day, like a Monday or something like that ... so that it won't conflict with Arcade."
The XBLA Hits program is interesting: unlike the retail space where greatest hits collections are often simply matching the going price for older games, the digital distribution space needs to self-police those prices and lower them themselves. "XBLA Hits is essentially the digital equivalent of the Platinum Hits program. Now that the Arcade library is over 100 titles, we want to be able to permanently reduce prices on some of these best-selling classic games."
How do they determine which games will qualify as a "Hit"? "It will be the best-selling games, but there's not a metric of games that have sold over a certain number. And also, obviously, the publisher has to agree to participate," Greenberg said. That said, kicking off the program are the previously 1200 point ($15) Bankshot Billiards and Lumines Live, both of which are now 800 points ($10) – and we already knew about Lumines' new price. Joining those two are the the previously 800 point Marble Blast Ultra, Small Arms, and Zuma Deluxe, all of which are now only 400 points ($5). We asked if 400 points will be the lowest XBLA game price, or if any 400 point games will drop below that. Greenberg was candid: "I don't know the answer to that. Right now, there's nothing below 400 points on Arcade, so I don't know if that would change as part of this program."
Welcome to The Social
On to part two of this three part update: the social functionality! They've got a new "Inside Xbox" feed just below your gamercard on the Xbox Live blade. What's in there? Think of it as an RSS feed straight outta Redmond – updates on the service, the offerings, the new games that week, and whatever Jeff Bell's up to (spoiler alert: He's slam dunking on your dad at the Y).
We already know about Friends of Friends, we already know you can list your real name in your profile, but what we wanted to know was if you would see that real name while your stalked your friend's friends. The answer: nope. You will see their motto as you scroll over them, but you can't toggle your list to show real names instead of gamertags. You'll need to dip into the profile to get that info.
Notably missing: clan or group support. With all this social networking stuff going on, we'd really like to be able to make a group of peers or setup a clan of hardened UNO warriors. With the new location feature, maybe we could limit our play sessions to peeps from Philly or [fill in your city here]. Greenberg said, "I think it's a great idea ... and it's something that would make sense." Well, we won't take all the credit ... [Update: Tycho has an interesting workaround using a Silver account and the Friends of Friends functionality.]
Also missing: the ability to boost that 100 friend limit. Greenberg explained, "My list is full, your list is full, but the majority of Live members today don't even have 30 friends on their friends list ... hopefully, sooner than later, we'll be able to take care of that." As I've been crawling through friend's friends lists, I've come across a bunch of people who are totally maxed out – I'm looking at your xXBillyGates420Xx.
Enhance, enhance, enhance
The final component of the update is a little amorphous. They've got the Parental Timer, which we'll gloss over here. There are also some notable updates on the video side. Small update: full-screen previews. Megaton update: MPEG-4 Part 2 video codec support. Specifically, MPEG-4 Part 2 ASP (advanced simple profile) and SP (simple profile) in an AVI container. What does that mean to us humans? Greenberg decodes, "What that basically means is that our users should find that most of their DivX and Xvid files will work because they're under that umbrella of the MPEG-4 Part 2 codec."
Of course, this is probably the single most requested feature for the console, and we're thrilled that it's been included. We were unable to test this on our 360s, since the Connect360 app for Mac OS X limits the files it shares based on what it knows the 360 will playback. We'll test this in Windows and update the post shortly.
As always, there have been additional usability enhancements to the Marketplace, all of which are much easier to see in images or, better still, using it yourself. Another oft-requested fix: minors who have become adults since purchasing the system, will be treated as adults. That means chat and IM features should be enabled for those users. They've also removed one of our longest-standing annoyances about Xbox Live: the inability to change the Windows Live ID (née Passport) associated with an Xbox Live account. Major Nelson has more on both of these humble, yet long overdue, features.
Lastly, non-US users hoping to get the Video Marketplace in your particular country timed with the release of this update will need to wait a little longer. It's still planned for Fall, but not just yet.
Where to?
The Fall Update drops next Tuesday, December 4th, but the updates don't stop there. What's next for the Xbox 360 software? Where else could they go? "We're looking at a lot of stuff as we think about evolving Live over the next year and there's some significant and radical ideas on evolving the service. But, until we lock down what those will be and the specifics of it, we really can't address those." So, more Marketplace usability tweaks confirmed. We'll find out in the Spring.
Read – Microsoft Media Alert
Read – December 2007 System Update details @ Xbox Team Blog





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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 3)
Fernando Rocker @ Nov 30th 2007 12:05PM
DivX!
VampireHunter Z @ Nov 30th 2007 12:23PM
MSFT should be worshipped for this. I have over 200GBs of anime and other movie files that were screaming for this update. Now I should be able to use my remote to control the video instead of walking over to the PC.
rv @ Nov 30th 2007 12:29PM
What happened to iptv?
Dan @ Nov 30th 2007 12:54PM
ZOMFG MICROSOFT ACTUALLY DID SOMETHING THAT ISN@T EVIL!?!!?
Po0py @ Nov 30th 2007 1:45PM
Does anyone know if it supports Subs? I watch a lot of japanese/korean movies, subtitle support is an absolute must.
Also, any world on 1680x1050 support?
mcatrage @ Nov 30th 2007 2:24PM
Who uses divx? I know it's essentially the same thing but doesn't everyone use XviD instead?
Crono (NDF - Knight of the Old School) @ Nov 30th 2007 2:44PM
Divx is STILL not supported in MCE mode:
http://blogs.msdn.com/xboxteam/
Question 10.
Bullshit.
VampireHunter Z @ Nov 30th 2007 3:07PM
@Crono
Why use MCE when there is WMP11?
Crono (NDF - Knight of the Old School) @ Nov 30th 2007 3:19PM
Can you get TV over WMP11 on the Xbox 360?
Does it have a nice interface with thumbnail previews on WMP11 through the 360?
Whats the freaking point of having the Xbox360 be a Media Center Extender when the 360 running in that mode is the most gimped media player?
Guess i'll have to CONTINUE to use Transcode360 because Microsoft doesn't know how to update the 360 MCE interface.
VampireHunter Z @ Nov 30th 2007 3:59PM
If you want pretty fuzzy stuff you should get an Apple.
Crono (NDF - Knight of the Old School) @ Nov 30th 2007 4:07PM
So I should spend more money when I have something that should work for free?
I can't stand apple products, anyway. To much DRM. At least with my PC I control the content and how I get it. I just think it would be nice for MS to put the latest revision of MCE software on the 360 (that FULLY supports divx/xvid), instead of relegating it to just the dashboard. Whats the point in having the feature?
the_game_master @ Nov 30th 2007 8:28PM
@Crono
Wait, did you get the latest update already? How do you know DivX doesn't work on MCE extender yet without trying it for yourself when the update starts tommorrow.
Necki @ Dec 2nd 2007 9:11AM
Po0py subtitles I belive is already supported with the current encodings (wmv etc.) but I'm not sure if they will add it to the new set.
I would expect they would though.
ogvor @ Nov 30th 2007 12:06PM
Awesome, I love the idea of reduced price Arcade Titles. Small Arms for 5$ sounds like a good deal to me.
Vegeta (aka Ska Oreo) @ Nov 30th 2007 12:06PM
Awesome.
And to Frank:
FUCK YEAH WE GOT DIVX TOO BITCH!!!!
Trev @ Nov 30th 2007 12:26PM
Did anyone /really/ think you wouldn't get it?
It was confirmed for the PS3 and just not-quite-confirmed by some quick back peddling by the DivX people for 360. It was damn obvious it was coming.
Vegeta (aka Ska Oreo) @ Nov 30th 2007 12:38PM
Nah. Of course everyone knew we were going to get it. My post was a response that Frank made awhile ago saying that the psn was better cause they had divx and we didn't.
pete @ Nov 30th 2007 2:39PM
I have an unopened PS3 that is going back to the store STAT. YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!@!!!ZOMG!!!!!111
DjFIL @ Nov 30th 2007 12:08PM
yeah divx/xvid support. i to am a mac user w/ connect360, hopefully nullriver won't be to far behind the dashboard update to open up the divx/xvid playback.
Crono (NDF - Knight of the Old School) @ Nov 30th 2007 12:12PM
Is this update live now?
Vegeta (aka Ska Oreo) @ Nov 30th 2007 12:17PM
I think the update happens next monday.
Crono (NDF - Knight of the Old School) @ Nov 30th 2007 1:54PM
Cool,
AND WHO VOTES YOU DOWN FOR ASKING A DAMN QUESTION!!!!
NATO_Duke @ Nov 30th 2007 2:41PM
The probably voted you down because it says Tuesday, Dec 4 in the article. Thats my guess.
Ethan Rom @ Nov 30th 2007 12:13PM
So, is this Divx support through Windows Media Connect or only with XP Media Center Edition??
I have normal Windows XP and I have tons of movies/tv shows I want to stream to my big screen TV.
Marty @ Nov 30th 2007 12:18PM
I gave Windows XP Pro, and it *used* to work with the network streaming... It'd be great if they made that work again, hehe.
Marty @ Nov 30th 2007 12:18PM
I meant "have"... gah!
Christopher Grant @ Nov 30th 2007 12:39PM
It will work through anything. It should even work on the Mac as soon as Connect360 is updated.
StrangeBum @ Nov 30th 2007 1:06PM
@ Chris Grant
Oh you! You and your macs. Almost like Ryan Block on your sister site that rhymes with 'Henbadget'.
I kid, I kid. I'm excited about the DivX support, means all my Revision3 stuff can now play on my tv. I also like the throwback to the Xbox Original menus in the pic.
Crono (NDF - Knight of the Old School) @ Nov 30th 2007 2:48PM
No, divx will not work through MCE mode.
Thus says http://blogs.msdn.com/xboxteam/ question 10.
Princess Skittles @ Nov 30th 2007 12:13PM
XBLA Platinum Hits are delicious.
Blast Processing Megadrive @ Nov 30th 2007 12:14PM
Yech, why'd they use the Platinum Hits version of Crimson Sky's boxart? I've always found the "hits" line of boxarts to be ugly and, thus, seeked out the normal versions. PS1 had ugly green side banners (and the new disc labels were in black&white), PS2 and GCN had lame looking banners, and Xbox was the worst offender.
I always wonder why they can't simply leave the boxart alone with these reduced price games? Or if they just HAVE to let people know "Hey, this game was popular, so now it's cheaper! Buy it now!" then how about just a sticker on the shrink wrap?
Pointless side-rant over.
Fernando Rocker @ Nov 30th 2007 12:16PM
I hate those stupids boxes...
I have rebuyed several games of all systems, because of the boxes...
monkeymonkeymonkey @ Nov 30th 2007 12:20PM
Why not just make your own cover vs buying the game for more?
Fernando Rocker @ Nov 30th 2007 12:25PM
Maybe I have a problem... I like to collect videogame stuff, games, toys, etc...
Almost every videogame that I have (since the N64 era), I keep the receipt inside the boxes... I have every box of my systems too, in perfect shape, with everything inside.
Last week I bought again, the regular versions of Viewtiful Joe 2 and Kingdom Hearts, because I had the Players Choice version and the Greatest Hits version.
I don't like my games in that format =(
Blast Processing Megadrive @ Nov 30th 2007 12:25PM
When I'm waiting for a game to drop in price, I get it as soon as they announce it's on the "hits" list. That way, I get it after the price drop is official, but before the new shipments are sent out.
It's win-win!
Fernando Rocker @ Nov 30th 2007 12:29PM
Blast
Yeah, I try to do that to (Kingdom Hearts 2, Lego Star Wars II, God of War)
But sometimes its to late... I want Castevania Dawn o Sorrow for the DS, and the only version this days is the ugly Konami box.
dizzy @ Nov 30th 2007 12:43PM
@Fernando
Nice to know I'm not the only one who does such things. Call it sentimental bullcrap, but I like my boxes =)
I still have my original Chrono Trigger box still in the original plastic wrap it came in when I bought it from Toys R Us years and years ago, meticulously cut open, like the OCD freak that I am...
Ants @ Nov 30th 2007 12:43PM
i think they use ugly box art on purpose so that early adoptors who bought the game at full price wouldn't be as mad that others bought the same game cheaper later on.
Ironhide @ Nov 30th 2007 2:27PM
I'm all about the packaging amongst other things. People ask me why I buy games, especially after gloating how they just got 'x' game downloaded. In no particular order of priority:
1) Packaging. Sorry but a loose disc scribbled in sharpie looks like shit. You also can't spine it on a shelf. A jewel case with a printed label also looks obvious to me.
2)Art. You might consider this one and the same as packaging, but if a game has good art on the cover, it makes me want to collect it even more. Take the Transformers movie release just a couple of months ago. The regular dvd version has that three shot of Bumblebee, Optimus Prime and Megatron, all looking slightly wall eyed. The special edition version was so much cooler looking, and the hddvd version mirrors that packaging. I chose the special edition, almost solely because of the esthetics of the cover, with the special features as an after thought.
2) It supports the industry that produces that which I love the most, hobbywise. You vote with your dollars. Buy the good games, skip the crap on a platter games and the industry learns from it's mistakes. We'll always have shovelware, but as long as good games get bought, we'll see more good games coming.
3) Piracy. It pisses me off when I hear about people renting games from Blockbuster and copying them or just downloading them. I know many people that work in the games industry. The amount of work, both blood and sweat, that they put into that game that you just casually copied would sicken you should you actually take time to notice.
sp @ Nov 30th 2007 2:37PM
blood and sweat? come on, now....
don't worry though, they've got all my money.
Ninja @ Nov 30th 2007 8:04PM
Maybe I'm just cynical, but I always thought they did that to encourage people to buy the games before the games come down in price. Although the original Xbox's Platinum Hits boxes probably looked a bit nicer than the normal boxes.
Meridimus @ Dec 1st 2007 5:47AM
I hate the classic/platinum boxes. If I ever owned one I'd feel like a cheap whore in a crack den. I think it's an excellent idea, of course to lower the price of popular games but can't they do something nice with it? Maybe just have the XBOX 'X' in silver or something with a sticker on the plastic wrapping saying "Classic - Sold over xxxxxx copies"...
Marty @ Nov 30th 2007 12:17PM
You've really got to hand it to MS for the 360 dashboard updates - they really do seem to listen to the community and work on the functionality that people want. Can't wait for the update!
EvilIlluminated @ Nov 30th 2007 12:19PM
I've had my '1600 point card from best buy for $5 Halo 3 promotion card' (^_-) for a long time.
I didn't know why I was waiting to pick somthing up.
but something told me to wait
I wanted to pick up Lumines or Puzzle Quest or any other number of games.
but I knew I had to wait...
and now
PSYCHONAUTS
huzzah, in for 1
monkeymonkeymonkey @ Nov 30th 2007 12:18PM
when is this update available? I am currently using Tversity to share with my 360, should I still use it? If not, how do you share with a standard WinXP Home PC rather than Media Center?
Crono (NDF - Knight of the Old School) @ Nov 30th 2007 3:37PM
Dec 4, and you're better off, aparently, using WMP11 or TVersity. Just tell TVersity to "never transcode" or "Transcode only when necessary"
343 Guilty Fart @ Nov 30th 2007 12:18PM
Whew, now I can finally stream all that porn!! Thank you MS!
Cyro @ Nov 30th 2007 12:42PM
LOL!
zero @ Nov 30th 2007 2:16PM
I know that was the first thing I thought when I read DivX was confirmed. The second, was MeatSpin shenanigans!
Crono (NDF - Knight of the Old School) @ Nov 30th 2007 2:21PM
All we need now is a youtube blade.